Pharma-Psychological-Prison

The large scale, systematic use of psychiatric punishment began in the late 1930’s in the Soviet Union, and greatly expanded under Khrushchev. No westerner was allowed to visit a Soviet Special Psychiatric Hospital, but reports from former prisoners showed a stark resemblance to the experimental prison-clinics run by Himmler’s SS doctors, both in cruelties practiced and type of doctor in charge. As with most past systems of totalitarian control, psychiatric punishment of the homeless was a precursor to labeling political dissent as a mental illness. On May 24, 1959, Pravda, the official Soviet newspaper, quoted Khrushchev as saying “To those who might start calling for opposition to Communism . . . clearly the mental state of such people is not normal.” In Germany Hitler popularized eugenic psychiatry in his book “Mein Kampf.” And in the United States there is somewhere between 3 and 4 million American children that are on Ritalin!

These psychiatric drugs modify the brain and its neurotransmitters. The human brain is the most complicated and least understood organ in the human body and perhaps the most complicated organ on the earth. Anti-psychotics pollute the brain at far higher concentrations than anything on earth has ever been exposed to. These pharmaceuticals stop the brain from removing and destroying serotonin, and no research has ever been done to find out if this is reversible after the medication is discontinued. There are about 160 lawsuits out against Eli Lilly for murder or suicide, induced by Prozac use, and that is only one drug from one corporation.

Sometimes I don’t see a homeless brother or sister for a long time. When finally I see them again, they don’t want to talk about where they’ve been, they can no longer look me in the eye, and life seems to have left them somehow. This is how I expect my next encounter with my friend Jessy to be.

Tuesday I witnessed Jessy being rounded up and taken to “Simpervirens” (a mental detainment facility) to get a dose or two of some drug, made by a corporation, of which George Bush Sr. or Donald Rumsfeld was probably once the CEO (they chaired three pharmaceutical corporations). He was rounded up by the new mental health outreach team, called: “the police.” They claimed that somebody called and when they responded they did not know if they were responding to a 5150 “aide to sick,” or a crime. The police claim Jessy was “conversing with someone who wasn’t there” and “wasn’t making sense.” When Jessy asked “why am I was being arrested,” he was authoritatively reassured that he was merely being involuntarily institutionalized, drugged and detained for the next 72 hours and not arrested.

Using Police as mental health outreach goes a little beyond “law enforcement” when we authorize them to make psychiatric diagnoses on non-violent and non-suicidal people on the streets. According to AB1421, “Laura’s law,” police can round up and detain a suspected mentally ill person for 72 hours if they “feel” that they are a danger to themselves or to society. This law was intended to protect us from the dangerously violent criminally insane. With policies designed to run homeless people out of the towns they reside in, police officers, like Arcata’s Brent Chase use, these laws as “tools” to keep homeless numbers down.

Others and myself helped Jessy out quite a bit, taught him life skills, spent time with him, helped him with necessities and enjoyed his company. Anyone who knows Jessy knows that he talks to himself out loud. Jessy, who is actually quite nice, harmless and very introverted, is a victim of the whole neurosis caused by a system that rips your job, retirement, or freedom from you in a second, and then calls you a criminal when you become, the only option left to you, homeless. He keeps to himself, but when he asks me for something he starts to express an internally rationalized shame verbally. The shame poor Jessy must of felt, just because he was stopped and arrested, showed most after telling the homeless/mental health/police officers that he (a) knew what Simpervirens was and (b) that he “did not want to go there,” and then, looked at me, with tears in his eyes, and said, “Don’t let them take me there.” Of course there wasn’t anything I could do.

A 2004 report, subcontracted by the US Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), written by the Urban Institute, called “Strategies for Reducing Chronic Street Homelessness,” speaks of a “paradigm shift” because of a “trigger event.” I wont elaborate on how the Patriot Act was a paradigm shift because of a trigger event, but I will mention it. This, what is called “problem, reaction, solution” or the “Hegelian Dialect,” is a way for social engineers to incite, justify and implement policies to improve a situation within their culturally narrow bias. The cultural differences between well-paid and housed doctors, law-makers, professors and police, called “experts,” and poor homeless people, is wide enough of a chasm, but then the “experts” advocate creating or utilizing a “trigger event” to force a “paradigm shift” to create “innovative outreach programs developed by and located in the . . . Police Department” (italics mine, ch3, p21). Though the report claims, “Providers have to attract . . . the very resistant people they are trying to serve,” it also advocates to, “combine police and mental health expertise and authority” to be “the only outreach teams on the streets that have the ability to remove people either voluntarily or involuntarily” (italics, bold & underline mine, ch3, p21). A San Diego city policy praised in the report is: “San Diego Police Officers arrest chronic street alcoholics . . . offer treatment plus transitional housing as an alternative to six months in jail . . . they [chronic street alcoholics] may first serve a full jail sentence or even two before they are convinced to try” (italics mine, ch3, p22).

There are many good ideas in the Urban Institute’s report, but they are inter-dispersed with cruel, unconstitutional, and human rights violating ideas. If these programs were so damn good for the chronic homeless they are intended to serve, then they would be flooded with applicants, not forcing people against their will to participate. To involuntarily medicate, institutionalize, and case manage people, based on controversial psychology theories, methods and pharmaceuticals, is the real criminal insanity. Social control through medications and internment is no different today then in Stalin’s, Hitler’s or Khrushchev’s days. The law clearly states that a victim of Laura’s Law must be a threat to the safety of himself or others. The only threat to safety was the threat towards Jessy, of what the constitution and all pertinent resulting case law calls “the threat of loss of ones life, by loss of freedom.”

The round up is underway. Homeland Security Department round ups, like
Operation FALCON, round up the “fugitives” – remember fugitives are wanted, not necessarily guilty. The Chronic Homeless Initiative rounds up the mentally ill homeless with police using culturally biased standards and goals. Its not a question of whether they will ignore their promise to “just go after the fugitives and mentally ill” and go after the activists, the communists, the unions, the gays, the Jews, and the real Christians, but a question of when. Just as was done with the racketeering laws and the SWAT teams, the roles of the homeless/mentally ill policies will be revised to include social engineering of a fascist order.

I went to Jessy’s hearing. The hearing was not to win his freedom, though 72 hours is all they are allowed to hold him (he has been held against his will for 6 days as of this writing). The hearing was about forced medication, whether Jessy should be court ordered to take pharmaceuticals, which he does not want. This, what I call the “bag ’em and tag em” policies of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the California Department of Mental Health, gives a better understanding of their logic – extremely evil logic, but their rationalization none the less.

As I have also already pointed out, Jessy was in no way, shape, or form , “5150. a danger to himself,” at the time of his non-arrest, apprehension and incarceration. In court it was testified that Jessy was sleeping at the initial contact with the police. A doctor from Simpervirens mental health detention center testified for the prosecution. I initially thought the extremely pale doctor with the thorazine shuffle and drug induced glazed eyes was just another defendant in a hearing of Jessy’s type, so imagine my surprise when I discovered it was none other the Dr. John Sommers, the pill pushing Psychiatric Doctor of Simpervirens.

Dr. Sommers testified that when poor Jessy was brought to Sempervirons he was resistant. Asked if he witnessed the resistance he claimed, “No, I observed him resisting the restraints.” Jessy testified that he wasn’t restrained. He said that the nurses and staff at Sempervirens threatened to, “Strap me [Jessy] down if I didn’t take the medicines they were trying to give me.”

The doctor claimed that in his opinion, from less then half an hour talking to Jessy, Jessy suffered from what the DSM-IV (Diagnostic & Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, no. 4) calls “Psychotic Disorder Not Otherwise Specified or Psychosis NOS.” I was pretty sure that this “diagnosis” was really a classification, since Judge Wilson seemed very familiar with the term, though if it weren’t so sick, it would be funny. The DSM-IV is a book about 4 inches thick with a 10-page list of categories of mental disorders. Each category has mental disorder diagnosis within them. At the very end of the “Psychotic Disorders” category is this Psychosis NOS. Under the description for Psychosis NOS it reads: “[NOS] is included for classifying psychotic presentations that do not meet the criteria for any specific Psychotic Disorders defined in this section or psychotic symptomatology about which there is inadequate or contradictory information” (italics mine). Talk about a catchall law!
If I understand the professional opinion correctly, then a person who is not a danger to himself or others, but who denies a mental illness that is accused by a mental health “professional,” needs to have the court “make him feel better” by forced medication. The doctor authoritatively proclaimed, from the witness stand, as grounds for Jessy not knowing that he should be strapped down and force-fed anti-psychotics, mood stabilizers, tranquilizers, anti-depression medication and a whole cocktail of drugs to combat the many potential side-effects, that Jessy’s “thinking was not based on fact,” he showed “resistance to taking the medication,” he was “speaking in ‘word-salad’ (Sommers’ word for incomplete sentences),” he “can’t answer questions” and that Jessy “can’t hold a rational conversation.” When Jessy took the stand he was perhaps even more articulate than the doctor wanting to experiment on him. He answered all of the questions asked of him as well as most I’ve seen in courts, and I’ve seen a lot. He figured days, times, and people involved when asked to. He did kind of confuse the court audience when he was asked if he knew why he was in court and he replied “to fight for my life.” Everyone seemed to understand him all right though when he said “I don’t feel alive when taking those drugs.”

Here’s the theory: A homeless person is reported sleeping in the bushes. Brent Chase, an Arcata police officer, ex-park ranger (a position created to prevent homeless from sleeping in Arcata), implementing a “run the bums out of town” policy, from the mayor and city manager, shows up on the scene. Statements by the police department indicate that Chase was not sure whether it was trespassing or “5150, a danger to him or her self,” call. The police made no indications that Jessy did not cooperate in any form. I showed up right after the initial contact, at about the same time as the second officer. Jessy was very coherent and articulate by the time I arrived. Chase having the “authority” to diagnose and take into custody someone he “believes” a danger to themselves, or any other behavior he deems “5150,” takes Jessy and incarcerates him into a mental detainment institution. Though an arrested person has to, by law, be brought before a judge in 72 hours of arrest, Jessy spent a week being threatened, coerced, intimidated, and pestered into voluntarily taking pharmaceuticals that he “didn’t want to [voluntarily] take.” Dr. Sommers claimed to have for a week “tried several different tacks to try to get him to give informed consent.” Since Jessy was not crazy enough to fall for the pharmaceutical dope dealers manipulation, he was finally brought to court, not to secure his lawful release, but to try to force lifetime maintenance drugs on him. Even Judge Wilson was trying to get him to consider a pharmaceutical life.

If there is a moral to this story, it is Jessy was the victim of “rope ’em and dope ’em” terrorism that is happening right here, right now. He needs alternative, empowering mental health models and he needs the security to know he is safe in his own person. With anti-homeless police, implementing a whatever it takes policy to run the homeless out of town, how safe will any of us be when $800,000,000 of Prop 63 money is used to enforce procedures that don’t require probable cause, speedy trials, and proof beyond a doubt? With so many ties between the current administration and the pharmaceutical corporations, and also the ties between the pill makers and the psychiatric professional organizations, profits and social control have become the obvious goal of forced medication.

love eternal
tad

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41 Responses to “Pharma-Psychological-Prison”

  1. Jeff Says:

    Tad,

    Good post. I’m sadden to hear the story. The drug companies have way too much power. Did you hear about the siezing of land in Conneticut for a private development that the supreme court is upholding? Guess who the company is: Pfizer. It’s not that psychopharmaceuticals have no place, but to force them on someone who’s not a threat is criminal. I think it has very little to do with social control, and almost everything to do with money.

  2. Jeff Says:

    p.s. Please keep me informed of Jessy’s story.

  3. Anonymous Says:

    Mentally ill people don’t always want to be medicated. Yep, I can believe that.

  4. Chip Nelson Says:

    Here in the rural South psychitratic patients are held in the Emergency Rooms of the nearest hospital, sometimes for days and weeks awaiting a vacancy at a facility. The state of actual mental health resources is meager at best.

    What gets me though is that from time to time I hear people say that other cultures don’t have the same regard for human life as we do.

    I enjoyed your blog.

  5. Anonymous Says:

    Look where Chip is from (click the link). “Occupied Confederate States”

    Hey Plazoid, you’re in good company!

  6. Captain Ottinger Says:

    Yeah, I suppose you guys are also opposed to a suicidal person being forced into medical treatment, too. By gosh, who do the police officers think they are to be assessing a person’s mental state and sending them to be reviewed by trained professionals? By gosh, police offers have only been trained to do so! We should instead let mentally ill homeless people be assessed by other homeless people. Yep, that’s the ticket.

    I agree with anonymous. This blog is HIGH-larious.

  7. Anonymous Says:

    Dang, I just read about the Eureka innocent who wanted to perform his Constitutional right to stick a shotgun to his head, but the cops instead tasered him and got him “medical” help. Who do the cops think they are? Too bad there weren’t any homeless neighbors there to rescue him from the meanie cops.

  8. the PLAZOID Says:

    to anonymous:
    Your comment lacks meaning and is irrelevant. I wish I was as entertained by your writings as you are by the writings of the editors of this blog.

  9. Anonymous Says:

    Ahaha, great way to deal with criticism. Dismiss it out of hand. Why, you should be on the homeless task force! You’ve demonstrated the requisite skill.

  10. Anonymous Says:

    P.S. Hey, as long as you’re ignoring dissenting views, I’ll keep talking. I find it hard to believe this blog has “editors” plural, as you state. The blog is not named “The Plazoids” in the plural. Plus, you describe it as “self-published.” It is not self-published if there is more than one person behind it. Multiple personalities don’t count either, unless other people hear them too. Maybe the city should hire a school teacher to educate the Plaza Tribe on sixth grade grammar, or medicate away the extra voices that torment your mind.

    I don’t mean to sound harsh, nor do I expect every word to be grammatically correct, but I kind of believe most homeless people finish sixth grade before they find their freedom on the streets, and they can at least work on getting site titles and tag lines correct. Have at least a little self respect.

  11. the PLAZOID Says:

    Anonymous: you don’t sound “harsh,” you sound “ignorant.”

  12. Anonymous Says:

    Yep, pointing out your grammatical errors and paranoia makes me sound ignorant. Guilty as charged. Ship me off to Eureka for some meds.

  13. Jeff Says:

    Hey Captain Ottinger, you said: “Yeah, I suppose you guys are also opposed to a suicidal person being forced into medical treatment, too.”

    And why do you suppose that? If there’s anything that suggested that, I missed it.

    Try reading this article:

    http://newstandardnews.net/content/?action=show_item&itemid=614

    I know it’s not that relevant, but it’s a good read.

  14. Jeff Says:

    Anonymous said…

    “Mentally ill people don’t always want to be medicated. Yep, I can believe that. “

    And mentally healthy people sometimes do want to be medicated. Like during happy hour.

  15. Jeff Says:

    Anonymous said…
    “Dang, I just read about the Eureka innocent…”

    I don’t understand your use of ‘innocent.’ Why is the person innocent? Innocent of what? And where did you read about it?

  16. Jeff Says:

    Here’s another good read:

    http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/statehouse/050604mental.shtml

  17. Jeff Says:

    Here’s a good quote:

    “Yes, it does take special outreach to people who are reluctant,” said David Oaks, director of MindFreedom, an international coalition based in Eugene, Ore., that campaigns for the rights of people with mental illnesses.

    “But frightening them with this kind of extreme government intrusion is not the way to include them in recovery programs.”

    from this article:
    http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/statehouse/050529mentalhealth.shtml

  18. Anonymous Says:

    Stringy, are you humor-impaired?

    The “innocent” adjective is a jibe at Plazoid whose view seems to be that homeless people are all victims and police officers are all oppressors, and of course, that jails represent Naziism. So I’m being facetious when I refer to alleged homeless criminals as “innocents.”

    As for Captain’s remarks, I take them as a jibe at the idea of blindly defending a potentially medically ill individual and demonizing police officers and medical professionals for looking after the man’s welfare. Show evidence beyond the innocent’s own words before blindly crying wolf, or Nazi, or whatever at people who have a great track record of serving us here in this county. The rule is, innocent until proven guilty, except apparently on this blog.

  19. the PLAZOID Says:

    Stringy: Thanks for your comments. i checked that article from Portland, Maine, and it looked interesting. I will give it a read soon, along with the other articles that you linked.

  20. the PLAZOID Says:

    to “anonymous” (yet again): are you referring to Jessy as the innocent “blindly defended?” What part of “three eye-witnesses” did you not understand?

  21. Anonymous Says:

    Oh, I must have missed the part where the three eye-witnesses posted their own accounts of what happened at the medical facility under their real names. Or the part where you didn’t talk about Naziism. Or the part where… oh, I swear, you’re so not worth the effort.

    Every ounce of your being is a joke with the silly stories you weave. I’m sure they seem completely plausible and real to you. I’m sorry your God torments your mind and existence every waking moment. It must suck to be you.

  22. Anonymous Says:

    I’m sorry, but I’ve come to the conclusion I am an enabler. By interacting with you I only encourage your delusions and hatred. I’ll stop now. Blog away to Stringy in peace.

  23. Jeff Says:

    Take a lesson from Senator durbin:
    Durbin Apologizes

    McCain said the lesson is “Watch your words.”

    “It’s a very partisan atmosphere,” he said. “Things have a great resonance.”

    When you make such drastic claims, that becomes the focus and your message is lost.

  24. the PLAZOID Says:

    To anonymous: If you had taken the time to actually READ THE POST BEFORE COMMENTING, you might have noticed that the article posted was WRITTEN BY AN EYE-WITNESS. Yes, I guess you missed that.

    Yes, the article talks about nazism. Is that too taboo for you?

    “Or that part where…” Well? What? C’mon?

    And as for that last little tidbit of meaness, I’m actually quite happy being myself, although I probably spend a little too much time on the computer.

  25. Captain Ottinger Says:

    Plazzy, if you’re listening to Tad, well, that speaks for itself. And if you ARE Tad, boy oh boy.

    I’m outta here too. You’re not worth the time it took me to type this sentence. I don’t want to enable your fantasies and mean spiritedness either. Get a clue.

  26. Jeff Says:

    It’s not that Nazism is a taboo subject, it’s that your use (or Tad’s) is a false analogy. You either don’t understand the magnitude of what the Nazis did, you have a WAY overblown perception of the problems in our justice system, or you’re deliberately agitating. Did you get what happened to Senator Durbin? Discussion on the torture of prisoners has been pushed back because of his blunder. The only thing ever even close to Nazism in the US was the treatment of Native Americans. Abusing a prisoner or violating the rights of the mentally ill is not stacking bodies in an oven. If you think Americans are any where near that, then you don’t know enough Americans.

    Anon (for I’m guessing you’ll check back) I did get what you were doing. That was my way of saying you’re not funny.

  27. insurgent Says:

    figure it out already people

    anyone who says humboldt cops

    have a ‘great track record’

    is clearly enslaved to the mentality

    of kevin hoover & the lye

    or have we forgotten hoopa’s drug murders

    or the jailtime for exsheriff renner?

  28. the PLAZOID Says:

    to Stringy: I will reread tad’s article with a critical eye for his comparisons to nazi Germany. However, I do believe that had there been more public awareness of the intentions of the nazis BEFORE they actually committed their most horrific crimes, perhaps they could have been prevented. I want to link here to a website…but I don’t have it available, and this internet conncection is so darn slow…well, another time.
    But anyhow, I don’t think we have to wait for what we know is coming before taking action… I do believe in non-violence. This affords us the opportunity to be on the offensive. Do right. Hurt no one.
    As far as “you don’t know Americans,” well, maybe you don’t know Germans. I don’t doubt that Americans are good people, but I don’t think that this makes us invulnerable to the pitfalls that other good people before us have fallen into. Check out research done by Dr. Stanley Milgram (I’m not sure about the spelling of his name) post World War 2. He did a famous study where he tried to create a cituation in a university Psychology lab where subjects thought that they were being told to give people what would be lethal doses of electricity, and many of them did it. Sorry I don’t have the exact info right now, I’m using a crappy internet connection. I will post it soon.
    Is my perception of the injustice system overblown? I think that it is a matter of perspective. Think about it from the perspective of those locked down in federal prison, where they are subject to rape and torture daily, with the constant threat to life and total lack of liberty, facing long sentences for “crimes of survival,” which is the criminologists word for poor people doing desperate things to try to get by – including drug using/dealing (keep in mind that the cops in a lot of places see cannabis as a “schedual 1 narcotic,” just like crack and cocaine), robberies, burglaries, GTA, prostitution, and a long list of things that nobody wants to have to do.
    At what point do we say enough is enough?

  29. the PLAZOID Says:

    An overview of the Stanley Milgram study can be found on the web at:
    http://psychcentral.com/psypsych/Milgram_experiment

    A web page about the “White Rose” can be found at:
    http://www.jlrweb.com/whiterose/

  30. the PLAZOID Says:

    To Stringy:
    OK, I read the Senator Durbin article. However, I think the real lesson of the story is “Senators have to back down under pressure from right-wing conservatives who dominate the media.” If American soldiers did the same things nazis did, then that is just the way it is. No amount of apology or cover-up will change that fact. I applaude Senator Durbin’s initial courage in speaking out against inhumane treatment at the hands of American occupying forces, and again applaude his initial stance in defence of his words. As for the tearful retraction, well, I guess an elected official has to do what an elected official has to do in order to continue being an elected official.
    I have no interest in being an “elected official,” and will continue to call it as I see it.
    I haven’t gotten a chance just yet to reread tad’s entire article, but I will do that later today.
    Thank you for your comments and interesting posts.

  31. the PLAZOID Says:

    to insurgent: I would like to hear more.

  32. Anonymous Says:

    New warnings due for ADHD drugs
    FDA concerned about side effects from ingredient

    By Liz Szabo
    USA TODAY

    The Food and Drug Administration plans to add new warnings about psychiatric side effects to the label of Concerta and other drugs for attention deficits and hyperactivity, according to documents posted on the FDA website and confirmed by the agency.

    At a meeting today of the FDA’s Pediatric Advisory Committee, officials will discuss safety concerns about Concerta, a form of methylphenidate, the active ingredient in Ritalin and similar medications.

    A briefing document about the meeting says the review was prompted by reports of hallucinations, suicidal thoughts, psychotic behavior and aggression among methylphenidate users. Officials note that Concerta’s label already lists possible psychiatric side effects but suggests the problems aren’t serious or that the drug might only aggravate existing problems.

    The FDA also has received reports of cardiovascular problems among Concerta users, such as high blood pressure, arrhythmia and racing heartbeats. The agency doesn’t yet know whether these problems are caused by the drug.

    Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) affects about 7.5% of school-age children, Concerta’s maker says. The drug, approved in 2000, is intended to improve concentration and impulse control. Patients filled 7.8 million prescriptions last year, the FDA report says.

    The agency also plans to examine other stimulants used to treat ADHD, including amphetamines and Strattera. Last year, the FDA changed the label for Adderall XR to include risk of sudden cardiovascular death, especially in children with heart disease, the report says.

    Bonnie Jacobs of McNeil Consumer & Specialty Pharmaceuticals, a division of Johnson & Johnson that makes Concerta, says the company is reviewing the information and “will of course do what is in the best interest of patients.”

    Lawrence Diller, a doctor who specializes in behavioral pediatrics and author of the book Running on Ritalin, doesn’t plan to change his practice yet. Doctors have used these types of drugs for 70 years and have found them to be safe and effective in the short-term, he says.

    New problems might be surfacing today because the drugs are more widely prescribed. What’s needed is a better system to monitor the safety of drugs after they have been approved, Diller says.

  33. Jeff Says:

    I’m familiar with Milgram’s study, and also the Stanford Prison Experiment. It is quite possible for America to become a Nazilike regime, but they are not right now. The comparison that Tad made, the comparison that Durbin made, they are both without real merit. The Nazi’s built freeways. We build freeways. Does that mean we are like the Nazis? The most important problem with using the comparison is that it downplays the historical importance of the holocaust. There is absolutely no comparison of chaining prisoners to their beds in potentially deadly heat, beating and electrocuting them, and loading millions of people into trains, and murdering them on a mass scale.

    I too appauld Senator Durbin for speaking out against the absolutely unacceptable and horrendous behavior of our military at Guantanamo, but if you can’t speak effectively, you can do more harm than good. It’s not just Democrats who are subject to the clamor of public outrage. Trent Lott experienced a similiar opinion storm. Durbin is more likely to survive his blunder because he’s not continuing to say stupid things, unlike Lott, who when the shit was up to his chin, he still couldn’t keep his mouth shut.

    Speak out loud and passionately against police corruption and violence, against the inhumanity and injustice of our courts and prisons, against the rising tide of imperialistic war. But do so effectively. You owe it to the Jews, the Homosexuals, the Gypsies, the Mentally Ill, the Handicap, Jehova Witnesses, and the Institutionalized that were murdered in mass by Hitler’s Nazi party to not diminish the horrors they were subjected to by making unfair comparisons.

    The abuses that you rally against have been going on for thousands of years. Keep some persepective. If you keep crying Nazi, noone will believe you when they really come.

  34. the PLAZOID Says:

    Check out this website – it is a world war 2 timeline. Check out the links to the concentration camps:
    http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/ww2time.htm#1933

  35. Jeff Says:

    I checked it out. I read the concentration camp links.

  36. Jeff Says:

    Is there any new news on Jessy?

  37. the PLAZOID Says:

    Jessy was not in Sempervirens yesterday. That’s all I know.

  38. Anonymous Says:

    This happened to me in May, 2003.

    I was beaten up by a “crazed”
    santa clarita sheriff dirty cop terrorist

    (name still unknown) while on 9-1-1,
    in front of my neighbor’s house.

    One white in santa clarita
    sheriff patrol car.

    the other, dark skinned-
    tatooed, motorcycle cop.

    I panicked and had fled to my
    neighbor’s house because the two
    dirty cop terrorists refused to leave
    my house (CASTAIC) when asked.

    To this day, I do not know for
    what legal purpose they came to my
    house (CASTAIC, 91384).

    Also, have been unable to obtain a
    recording of my 9-1-1 call record.

    After being beaten up, I was improperly
    put on a

    “3-day Forced Psych. Detention(AKA 5150).”

    [basically, a dirty cop terrorist smear tactic to cover up beating].
    ————————-

    The dirty cop terrorists bamboozled me
    by repeatedly using the term “3-day hold.”

    While at Henry Mayo Newhall Memorial
    Hospital — Psych. Unit, I was forcibly
    drugged, via buttock, with an unknown
    psych. drug.

    Upon release that night, there was a
    self-stabbing incident INDUCED by a
    dirty cop terrorist incited beating and forced psych. drugging.

    Every day I ask myself, am I living
    in America or North Korea.

    P.S. mi-chin-nom-dul=dirty cop terrorist
    with “police powers.” The average citizen with zero criminial record
    doesn’t stand a chance with one dirty cop terrorist with “police powers.”

    Let alone the entire corrupt police union.

    Watch out.
    dead citizens tell no tales.

  39. Jeff Says:

    It’s too bad nobody was able to videotape your abuse.

    “Justice will continue to be served in this country, as long as people keep videotaping.” Marge Simpson

    Is anybody keeping track of Jessy?

  40. tad Says:

    Once I would of agreed that we are not Nazi. I even once believed we never could be. But then as I reread history and I saw the same patterns playing out again and again I realized that bow and arrow was the precursor to the gun. It is still a weapon and it still kills people. Likewise I realize that centralized government, excessive military and police budgets, and Orwellian social engineering are the prelude to National Socialism.
    I don’t have to account for every drop of water in the river to have the wisdom to see how it flows. The dams are braking and National Socialism is flooding the world. To quote Tool “learn to swim.” Welcome to the future.

    Love eternal
    tad

  41. Jeff Says:

    My experience is the opposite. I used to be totally paranoid, convinced that the government, the covert community was secretly manipulating everything, and planning on imposing a police state. Then I stopped taking drugs and began to listen more carefully to more people and develop more trust. Now I believe that greed, addiction and ignorance drive this nation, and not some ideological superiority. The conflicts between the housed and the homeless has economic roots. Can anyone answer me this question? Why are public restrooms almost always so totally gross?

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